IT’S ALL IN THE TRAINING
Why Independent Call Centers Often Outshine Hotel Brands

Most hotels have suffered a major decline in sales leads from reliable digital channels. Can the voice channel pick up the slack and drive direct bookings? Doug Kennedy, President of the renowned Kennedy Training Network, certainly believes it can.
In the following interview, Kennedy discusses why the voice channel matters more than ever, and how hotels can convert more phone inquiries. He also discusses why well-trained independent call centers often outperform hotel brands.
Interviewer: What are the most interesting and rewarding parts of your job?
Doug: I would say the most interesting part is that I get to work with an incredible mix of lodging companies representing all accommodation types, from ultra-luxury and boutique to selective services, historic inns and vacation home rental agencies. The most rewarding part is seeing our KTN training concepts help increase sales and revenue across all these various business models.
Interviewer: You’ve often referred to voice as the “forgotten” distribution channel, but now I read where you are saying that especially right now it should be treated as an integral part of a hotel’s revenue strategy. Can you explain your thinking?
Doug: Indeed, voice has been a forgotten channel. Most distribution leaders have failed to recognize the interplay of voice and online bookings. What I mean is that many of those website bookings they seem to obsess on have started off with phone conversations. Frankly though, I’m shocked that so many are still overlooking voice at a time when group and corporate/BT channels has been devastated. Right now, travelers are calling about what’s open or closed in or nearby the hotel, or with questions about cleaning protocols, or just for the reassurance that only a human voice can offer.
Interviewer: How has KTN adapted its training for the current pandemic era?
Doug: Well to pick-up on my response to your previous question, with so many more potential guests calling before booking online, it’s a wonderful time to steal-back market share from OTA’s as much from the comp-set. For an example specific to Travel Outlook, we put together a customized, live webcam training on how to convert those “I just have a question” and “I’m just checking the rates” calls into bookings by asking conversation-starting questions. We also trained them to show empathy, as a lot of callers are self-revealing challenging personal circumstances and situations.
Interviewer: Compared to independent call centers such as Travel Outlook, how are hotel brands handling their voice channel?
Doug: Frankly, I have to say overall, very poorly. Recently, while doing research for one of my monthly training articles, another KTN executive and I personally conducted a mystery shopping survey of the call centers for top seven hotel brands in North America and tested their agents on six established sales essentials. We were basically replicating a survey we conducted in 2014 at the time when brands were launching their “book direct and save” campaigns. Just like in 2014, the major brands scored poorly in nearly all categories.
Interviewer: Can you give specific examples?
Doug: Sure. One question we asked was, did the voice agent sell some of the hotel’s benefits? And to be clear, we were looking for simple stuff — like whether they mentioned that the hotel offered complimentary breakfast or had a convenient location. Only 7% of call agents mentioned this kind of information.
Doug Kennedy – Kennedy Training Network: Is sales team focused on order-making or order-taking?
Interviewer: Okay, wow, pretty surprising. So, what other categories did the brands struggle with?
Doug: Another category involved what is generally called asking “discovery” questions. We gave credit to an agent if they asked guests any questions beyond the basics about dates, number of travelers and the like, but the score still came in at only 14%. Obviously, these questions are extremely important because they help an agent learn more about the caller, make personalized recommendations, and ultimately drive the booking.
Interviewer: Based on the survey you conducted with the hotel brands how do independent call centers stack up?
Doug: Independent call centers frequently come out more favorably. As an example, the scores for Travel Outlook are much stronger across the board, which really reflects the specific training their agents receive both from KTN and from their in-house leaders.
Interviewer: So, I have to ask then, how does Travel Outlook score?
Doug: Well first of all, the call scoring criteria we use for Travel Outlook is part of our KTN Call Center Certification requirements, so it sets a much higher bar. For example, the generic version we used for the brands had only 6 criteria, and yet the overall industry score was just 37%. Travel Outlook’s most recent YTD score was 89% including these disruptive pandemic era months, and that is based on a criterion with 21 line-items.
Interviewer: Can you tell us more about the KTN Call Center Certification?
Doug: Sure. Over the years we have provided training for most of the independent call centers in North America, and a few years back some of them asked us to come up with a certification process. In fact, Travel Outlook has been KTN Certified since 2013, at this time it is the only KTN Certified call center, although we do have others that have recently engaged in the journey. First, certified call centers have to engage in KTN’s QUEST training for existing and new staff, but that’s really the easy part. What’s far more challenging is having to maintain a 90-day rolling average call assessment score of 85% or higher.
Interviewer: And can you tell us about any specific sales training concepts KTN uses?
Doug: Part of our training involves encouraging the use of more and better investigative questioning in order to understand a guest’s unique “story”; to basically find out why they are calling, where they are in their buying journey, what it is that they did not yet find out online. The other key part is what we call a story-telling approach to narrate the pictures they have already seen and reassure them on their decision.
![]() Travel Outlook is the only call center certified by the Kennedy Training Network, the hotel industry’s best source for sales training and guest service excellence. |
Interviewer: So, there’s a greater feeling of spontaneity to the call?
Doug: Spontaneity, for sure. But also, to create a feeling that like the voice agent really cares. They’re trained to think about the call as a real conversation, not just a sales call. Right now, a lot of travelers will be picking up the phone to get reassurance from the hotel. If they speak with someone who can address their concerns, show real empathy, and offer them personalized help and advice, that’s the kind of combination that convinces people to book. |

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About John Smallwood, President of Travel Outlook
A veteran in the hospitality industry, John has owned, developed, and managed hotels for many years. After earning a BBA from New Mexico State University, he started his career with AT&T, gaining invaluable insight and experience in the early years of the data revolution. His experience in technology and hospitality merged in his development of Travel Outlook, the world-class hospitality contact center. More recently, he has branched out with the creation of ExpressRez, the premier contact center for the Bed and Breakfast industry, and with the creation of Annette, the first AI-powered voice bot for the hotel industry. |
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About Travel Outlook
Given its progressive approach to the voice channel – in terms of performance, training, transparency, testing and the tools used to measure performance – Travel Outlook Premium Hotel Call Center has become the premier voice reservations team in hospitality. Travel Outlook’s valued client list includes Viceroy Hotel Group, Outrigger, KSL Resorts, Proper Hospitality Group, Pacific Hospitality Group, Highgate Hotels, The Irvine Company, Catalina Island and many others. Travel Outlook’s team and approach increases sales conversion and helps to create more effective voice communication between hotels and their guests, resulting in improved social scores in addition to increased voice channel revenue. For more information, visit www.traveloutlook.com. |
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About Annette™, The Virtual Hotel Agent™:
Annette is an AI powered virtual call center agent that represents the next generation of voice bots designed specifically for the Hospitality industry. Annette has been programmed using a breakthrough approach to voice bots, a system built from human conversations. Using social media, chat forums, and movie dialogue, Annette learns from billions of casual human conversations to understand human inflections and multi-turn queries. This revolutionary approach means Annette understands callers no matter what they say, when they say it, or how they speak. Annette can answer FAQs specific to your property, understand multiple languages, route calls, send follow up texts, and more. |
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